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Guys just wait until you starting getting into the the re-clocking side of things with USB. I am running a Iso regen
uptoneaudio.com/products/iso-regen
into a Tx Ultra
www.sotm-audio.com/sotmwp/english/portfolio-item/tx-usbultra/
over high quality usb cables and the sound has been incredible. By having Goldenear as the front end gives these other components as much of a chance to shine as thee are that good.
Let me know if you have any questions on what I am doing here on the USB chain. The gains have been awesome
Digital-Nimitra Server>USPCB>Iso Regen>TX Ultra>chord mscaler>chord dave>deqx hdp5
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Steveo wrote: Everything that has been said about after sales for the Nimitra is completely true. He has been so good with me as I had a problematic DAC and system. He is overrall an awesome guy and I like him a lot and he stands behind his good products
Guys just wait until you starting getting into the the re-clocking side of things with USB. I am running a Iso regen
uptoneaudio.com/products/iso-regen
into a Tx Ultra
www.sotm-audio.com/sotmwp/english/portfolio-item/tx-usbultra/
over high quality usb cables and the sound has been incredible. By having Goldenear as the front end gives these other components as much of a chance to shine as thee are that good.
Let me know if you have any questions on what I am doing here on the USB chain. The gains have been awesome
OK, Stevo, I'm ignorant, which makes me confused.
You are running the Nimitra, which has been optimized for audio, right? Can you explain the function of your two downstream devices? One appears to be a reclocker. What is the first one doing? And, since you now have a Nimitra, why do you need a reclocker after that? Is the Nimitra USB output still jittery?
Thanks for the help here.
Charlie
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charliehatch wrote:
Right now, I'm trying to solve an optical interrupt problem between my Samsung TV and my DAC. I've just ordered a Wyred 4 Sound Remedy reclocker to see if that solves the problem. Then, I won't need to have my Oppo in the chain and I'll be free to explore something like Nimitra.
Charlie
Hi, Charlie
I put a Wyred 4 Sound Remedy on my SONOS Connect, to reclock and upsample streamed music to 96k. I liked what it did so much for smoothness, SQ that I sent the Connect to Wyred 4 Sound for a full retrofit including better Codec.
I don't know what reclocking will do for timing/interrupt issues, but will be very interested in your results. Jitter is an issue with feeds in general, and cleaning it up by reclocking can help SQ. Else, why did OPPO add reclocking to the 205's digital output.
Very interested in what you find.
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Put it this way, adding the nimitra and combining it with a curious cable USB was a big jump from my more expensive Sony player (HAPZ1). In fact it was good enough to live with, without adding anything further. I had just been lurking on the computer audiophile.com website and some of the users reported a huge jump combining the TX Ultra and Iso Regen between the nimitra and their dac's. I have had a sever case of "upgradeitis"" over the last few months (as I was off work and basically listening to music all day and tweaking the system)
I truly believe these products will help enhance almost any usb configuration as they are isolating and re-clocking the signal. It just sounds more musical. Its not that the Nimitra is bad sounding (far from it) it just benefits form these devices as most other USB sources would. I do say "most other" because I assume there might be some USB devices out there they are very expensive and over engineered where these devices might not make as much of an impact. It would be a good experiment to test actually. I would say that these devices we are talking about might be more expensive than the rest of our systems put together.
I cant explain it or the technicalities of what they are doing, I just know I would prefer my sound with them on than when I took them out. The test for me is always does it sound better for the money I invested. If I added a $100,000 amp it should sound excellent but does it sound ten times better than a $10k amp and would I rather save the $90k? Fortunately these Nimitra and reclocker devices while not dirt cheap, are way more obtainable (in audio terms) than a lot of other components in the audio industry.
This review on audiobacon.com can explain it better than I can.
audiobacon.net/2017/07/11/uptone-audio-iso-regen-review/
All I know is I love the increase in sound quality and I was happy to part with the money to get it. No USB is without its inherent problems and these devices help with the signal transmission. There are too many users of these devices in the chain that can confirm a huge increase in sound quality as seen in this review and in other forums.
Myself, I couldn't believe how much the Nimitra and the reclockers helped my system. I added all of these components over the last few months and I was adding new stuff in every few weeks. Every addition was an improvement to the sound and in my experience everything matters (speakers, cables, Source, usb reclockers, better power source,cables and DACS)
I would have called you crazy if you told me 3 years ago USB cables make a difference in digital but I have found it was one of the biggest jumps I had in my sound quality.
I have heard many times before the GE speakers really appreciate good quality components and are very sensitive to changes in components. I have heard this myself which is excellent as it just shows how revealing and well engineered the GE speakers really are. They even sound good on low end components, but they are mind blowing with really good gear and it doesn't need to be uber expensive either. The great thing about this is you can basically ""upgrade"your GE speakers with other components and breathe new life into them whenever you want to splurge the next time
You gear is already amazing Charlie so I would love to see if going this way would help increase what you already have. You are running triton References from an Oppo with Bel Cantos 600s with Audience interconnects so you are already getting a tier 1 sound, I am sure. Wish you were in Sydney so we could do side by side comparisons.
Digital-Nimitra Server>USPCB>Iso Regen>TX Ultra>chord mscaler>chord dave>deqx hdp5
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Quick question: What does "jitter" sound like? What is a good way to detect the presence of jitter?
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ArthurDaniels wrote: Hi Guys,
Quick question: What does "jitter" sound like? What is a good way to detect the presence of jitter?
Thanks,
Art
Hi, Art
Digital audio jitter is when the 1's and 0's representing the music get a little out of time, don't arrive at the DAC for instance in perfect sequence/time. Good DAC's have some reclocking capability, but can't always correct every timing error. Some smearing, less than perfect clarity, some glare, even harshness can be the result. On my SONOS Connect, adding the reclocker to the digital out right after the SONOS seemed to take some glare out of some streamed songs. What it sounds like to me is smoother music, more analog like. At least that's what the effect seems like in my case. I think a lot depends on the digital pathway the music has taken also and how corrupted it may have gotten along the way. I seem to get a bigger difference on music streamed from the internet, like Deezer Elite (16 bit FLAC), than on music I ripped lossless from CD's onto my laptop.
That's been my experience anyway
Rick
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