Well, I had a bit of time available this afternoon, so I decided to connect the LFE output from my Onkyo NR 3009 Receiver to the Triton Ones. Prior to making this connection, I have been listening to music with the Level controls on the Triton Ones set to the 12 o'clock position (the default shipping setting). As I mentioned in the previous post, the bass response was smooth and pleasing on orchestral and choral music with no LFE connection.

I have read comments from others who have said that they experienced improved bass response with the LFE connection. But, I was totally unprepared for what I heard. There was an astounding increase in the bass in my setup with the LFE connected. So much more bass that I had to make major changes to my settings to "tone it down". I used several of my favorite "test CDs" to compare the bass response. Not only was there significantly more bass, the bass was also much deeper and fuller.

My final settings are: Triton Ones Level Controls to 3. Sub-woofer level control in my NR 3009 to -6.0 db. LFE cutoff frequency in the NR 3009 set to 80 HZ. Triton Ones set to Full Range (equivalent to Large). At these settings and at my normal room volume listening levels (which are not overly loud), I have very pleasing bass - better, I must admit than the bass sounds before I connected the LFE output to the Triton Ones.

My Paradigm DSP 3400 sub is still in the rear of the room and still in play, I reduced its level settings as well, as part of this setup change.

I will continue to listen in this mode to be sure that I prefer the LFE connection. But, at this point, it certainly appears to be superior. I'm confident that I will not be disappointed when I next watch a DVD and set my system for surround-sound performance.

Best to all,

Art

Like Wayne correctly pointed out, there is no LFE in stereo music playback. If you noticed a difference with the LFE connected playing back a CD then your Triton Ones are not set as full range (full band). Just pointing that out so others are not confused and have expectations that do not fit the scenario.

Yeah, Art, I am mystified as to what is going on.
BUT I am glad you are enjoying it!!!!
You are listening to music from a CD in "Pure Direct" or whatever Onkyo calls it?
I have thought every time I read that you had your Triton Ones set for bass at the 1200 position that something is either not right, or set wrong in your Onkyo, OR that the Triton Ones bass amp is not set like it is in the T2s or T3s. Because my T2s and 3s I cannot get it up past 1000 without WAY too much bass!!!!
Perhaps something is going on in your Onkyo that I do not understand, or the full range setting, Large setting is somehow not the same as every one else.
Glad you are experimenting and letting us know what you find, this will help someone we can hope.
Keep us in touch, please.
God Bless,
Wayne

WayneWilmeth wrote: Hey there Art,
IF you are only listening to music (not movies) then there is NO LFE to be sent to the Triton Ones. LFE is only the ".1" in 5.1 or 7.1 (for example) for movies, IF I understand correctly.
So when you listen to music in Pure Direct mode you are getting all the music sent to your Triton Ones, nothing is cut off.
"Don't worry, be happy" as the song says.
Enjoy your music on your Ones, I am jealous, I am sure they are wonderful!!!!!
God Bless,
Wayne

Hi Wayne,

The forum moderator made a similar comment a while back. When I have the sub woofer set to YES in either my Onkyo or Denon receivers and have the Tritons sub section or my Paradigm connected to the Sub-woofer output via an RCA type cable, there is bass signal present when I am in any listening mode, including Pure Direct. In Pure Direct, only the Fronts and the Sub are present. I agree that there's no "LFE" signal, since that signal is derived as part of a surround setup. I use the term LFE to simplify description of my setup.

Rest assured that there is copious bass signal present and being output via the sub RCA connectors on my Onkyo and my Denon.

Best,

Art

I don't know why this issue causes such an animated discussion. My Triton Ones are set to Full Range. The sub section of each Triton One is connected to the Onkyo Sub output via an RCA cable. There is bass signal present on the cable. I am a retired Electrical Engineer with over 50 years experience in electronics, so I can probably figure out how to connect audio gear and how it works.

Since this issue seems to be acrimonious, I don't see any value in my offering any additional comments on this forum with regard to how I am interconnecting my system.

Regards to all,

Art

This forum is for the benefit of all viewers. As much as questions are answered to the poster, they are for the benefit of the other 1000s of people who will view it. As moderator, when incorrect or misleading information is posted, I have two choices, delete it or correct it. I have chosen to correct 99% of the time. I believe that is appreciated by forum members and viewers.

This has nothing to do with how YOU are connecting YOUR system. And you may be an extremely knowledgeable engineer, but that has nothing to do with the functioning of your receiver, and I need to make sure people understand that what you are describing is not correct functioning of a bass management system. If you want to check if I'm correct, you can get the engineering information from Dolby or any number of other sources online.

To wit, a 2.0 signal (stereo CD, if you will), contains no LFE channel information. In proper bass management functioning, setting the main speakers to full range (Large in the common vernacular) means absolutely nothing is sent down the LFE channel no matter whether sub is set to Yes or No. If there is something present in your system setup, than you have another setting regarding bass management that you aren't sharing with the group (and we certainly don't care what settings you use, if it makes you happy), we just want to clarify for the other readers on the forum. OK, done.