WayneWilmeth wrote: .......SO
Why on God's green earth would I want almost all that to go to waste listening to music in stereo, or mono, like watching a Black and White TV when you could watch color????? Stereo is soooooo 50s technology. Similar to the mono that came before it and Black and White photography..........

Because God's Green Earth is the first studio album by Canadian country music artist Gord Bamford and its recorded in stereo?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God%27s_Green_Earth

Ha Ha

www.schiit.com/about/news/yggdrasil-refined

Because my unit was shipped October 2017 and did not include the upgrade, Schiit has extended me a "courtesy" (their word) amd will perform a free upgrade

my Yggdrasil unit has been mailed via fedex ground, expected arrival at Schiit 1/23

Truckin' like the doodah man once told me "Gotta play your hand"

GDHAL wrote:
Schiit has extended me a "courtesy" (their word) amd will perform a free upgrade

I've been wondering what you think about your Yggy now that you've been living with it for a while. Any comments?

I wonder if the Analog 2 higher output current capability will make a noticeable change. Better bass?

Charlie

charliehatch wrote:

GDHAL wrote:
Schiit has extended me a "courtesy" (their word) amd will perform a free upgrade

I've been wondering what you think about your Yggy now that you've been living with it for a while. Any comments?

I wonder if the Analog 2 higher output current capability will make a noticeable change. Better bass?

Charlie

Hi Charlie -

Thank you for asking. Overall I'm very happy with it. There truly is "something" about the sound that succinctly can be described as "authentic". I've seen terms like "organic" used as well. No doubt it has much less "digititis" than is typically the case when listening to digital.

I posted a thread (a saga by this point) on audiogon here, if you care for the nitty gritty details. forum.audiogon.com/discussions/new-yggdr...d-second-impressions

I'm optimistic about the Yggdrasil upgrade. This is what Schiit states the upgrade entails. This response is from Schiit and goes well beyond their news announcement.

SCHIIT HAS INTRODUCED AN UPGRADED ANALOG BOARD. THE MSRP HAS INCREASED $100 FOR A NEW YGGY UNIT.

1.) The cost to upgrade is $550. Due to the need for firmware and hardware updates, this upgrade must be done by Schiit, or by an authorized service center such as Electromod in the UK. Because of this, there is no self-install option, sorry.

2.) We've provided a convenient scheduling system that allows you to keep your Yggdrasil until we’re ready to upgrade it immediately. Just place your order, and follow the steps in the series of emails. You’ll be notified when your order is accepted, when to send in your DAC, when the work is performed, and when it’s shipped back to you, for complete transparency.

3.) Yggdrasil Analog 2 includes many refinements, including all-new Class A, DC-coupled discrete FET buffer stages and completely different internal board structure. The result is increased line driving capability, slightly lower noise and distortion, and…most importantly…significantly better sound!*

*Yeah, that’s subjective. Yeah, we’re biased. So sue us.


Benefits of Yggdrasil Analog 2:

a. Significantly reworked discrete buffers
b. Completely different internals
c. Increased line driving capability (600 ohm OK)
d. Slightly lower noise
e. Sounds better!

Is this really a worthwhile upgrade to do?
While we can’t comment on what you’ll hear, Mike Moffat says, “Hell yes!� Take that for what it’s worth.

Four years and you can’t find a different D/A converter to use?
Right. You find us a better 20+ bit multibit D/A. Hint: there aren’t any. Nor are there any we know of in development.

What about discrete ladders?
Again, find us a discrete ladder spec’d for INL and DNL over a wide operating temperature range, and we’ll consider it. We haven’t found any. Nor could we make one, without heroic stuff like ovens to set operational temperature and individual trimming of drivers. And maybe not even then.

So will this thing drive 600 ohm loads now?​
Yes

GDHAL,

Thanks for the info. I'm looking forward to see if you hear a difference with the upgrade.

I read your linked review, and, on the phase inversion, I wonder if it might be more obvious if you hear a big drum strike or something like that. Assuming everything in the recording/playback channel is done correctly, maybe you'd hear a difference there. Interesting thought: when you hit a big bass drum, you deflect the membrane in, so it might generate an initial rarefaction sound wave. Then again, maybe the other side does just the opposite. Maybe there's something out there that might make a difference, and my bet is it would be a transient sound of some kind.

Charlie