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rjohn79395 Posted 7 years 4 months ago
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Moderator Dude

Could you weigh in here re cable risers? The theory of minimizing dielectric effects on speaker cables makes sense to me. Have you and GEt used these at trade shows, or for your own personal setups? What does your experience tell you???

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WayneWilmeth Posted 7 years 4 months ago
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Bro Anthem, I like it!!!!! Let us know what you hear?
Bro Rick, I agree that I really must get my cables more and better organized.
But Bro Art, you had the best comment of all, "let the sleeping cables lie"!!!!!
I am gonna have to go with that. No Way I can get all that rat's nest sorted out.
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rjohn79395 wrote: Moderator Dude

Could you weigh in here re cable risers? The theory of minimizing dielectric effects on speaker cables makes sense to me. Have you and GEt used these at trade shows, or for your own personal setups? What does your experience tell you???

Thanks!

Rick


Nah ... :)
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anthem Posted 7 years 4 months ago
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Here is what the Good Folks at Mapleshade say about "Wire Management"...

The first instinct of any audiophile who wants a nice-looking system is to neatly bundle that mess of wires behind their equipment. DON'T DO IT! Bundling hurts the good sound of those cables you paid all that money for.

Don't despair: correct wire management can help rather than hinder good sound. The following four simple rules tell you how:

Don't run wires-speaker cables, ICs or power cords-close and parallel to each other for more than a few inches; they'll "talk" to each other, causing muddy, smeared, edgy sound. To avoid sonic degradation, keep parallel wires separated by at least 6" wherever possible.

Try not to run any wires near plastic (or ungrounded metal) surfaces, e.g. artificial fiber rugs or curtains, plastic tiles, linoleum, laminate wood floors, plastic moldings/wallpaper, urethane varnished floors, etc. If possible, keep wires at least 8" from plastic (or ungrounded metal) of any significant mass. These plastics are invariably terrible-sounding dielectrics.

Avoid using plastic cable ties, plastic sheathing, plastic braid, or plastic conduit to hold, support or protect wires. Instead, use good sounding dielectrics like string (cotton or silk), thin polypropylene tape, or thin wood (preferably maple) to hang/support wires.

Non-parallel wires--that is, those crossing at angles of 45 degrees or more-don't need to be separated: they can even touch at the crossing point without sonic harm.
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WayneWilmeth Posted 7 years 4 months ago
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Thanks Bro Anthem,
A LOT of that makes sense or I have heard before. BUT impossible for me to do.
I don't bundle wires together ever, and try to keep the rules about them running perpendicular, not parallel, esp. power and signal cables, BUT keeping marital discord to a minimum is MORE IMPORTANT and that mass of wires has gotta stay hidden away
BEHIND my system.
So, that is that and it is not made of maple.
Happy listening to any who can keep the rules.
STILL, I am a happy camper!!!!
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WayneWilmeth Posted 7 years 3 months ago
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Not too much interest in cable lifters, but many here believe in aftermarket power cables. Others of course believe those are snake oil.
I have discovered this awesome cellist, Maya Fridman, who records with the TRPTK label, an amazing label IMHO.
They not only use the best of DSD recording techniques, and tube microphone and go for the best equipment too, according to their blog, they even use the best cable. So in conjunction with Furutech they put this on the net, they recorded Maya playing using just ordinary power cables and then their own Furutech cables.
And let you hear both recordings in a coupla different resolutions to see if you can hear the difference. Of course, they all can, here you go:
www.furutech.com/2017/08/22/15425/

Beautiful music, enjoy and tell us, can you hear the difference????
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