Hi guys, I’d like to see if any of you have had any luck with slight asymmetrical toe in of your towers. My left tower is about 3 ft from a corner and the right is open. Both towers are about 39 inches from rear wall.

I’m noticing a nice soundstage with the left(corner one) firing about 2 inches in front my head while the right fires directly at my right ear. This appears to give me the most symmetrical stage so far. If I toe the right in to match it narrows the stage and feels off. If I reduce toe in of the left, the stage widens on the left and reduces width on the right side.

Any luck with a setup similar? I appreciate your thoughts. Cheers.

Sorry CXP, probably a good question, but I don't quite get it.
Are you saying that you use an asymmetrical toe in because your room boundaries around the two speakers are not symmetrical?
That might make sense.
God Bless,
Wayne

Yes that’s it. The theory is to counteract or modify the character of the first reflections from the left side which is next to boundary.

My general observations regarding toe in of the left speaker (boundary) is that with less toe in, timbre is wrong. It is thin sounding. Toed in directly to me,it’s ok but image still pulls left. By toeing in a little more on the left, to my nose or an inch or two in front really helps the timbre of the left side. If I set the balance to the left only timbre sounds better, acoustic guitar has a rich sound that better matches the right which doesn’t have a boundary.

I’m still messing with the angles but having the left point just in front of my nose and the right to point to back of my head seems to balance nicely with no image shift.

Hi, Cxp

Interesting! Good for you for experimenting, thinking through what effects room boundaries can have on SQ!

I have a right front that is bordering in my case a partial wall. I run the bass on that powered Triton higher than on the left, fully bordered front. Seems to balance things better.

Are your fronts powered? Adding some bass to the unbordered tower can help balance also.

I'll try some of your suggestions.

Thanks!

Rick

In my setup I am not hearing a great benefit with setting the subs at different levels. It’s possible that since I have Triton 3+s and the crossover on the mids are 160, setting them differently changes some of the vocal area. This is a major benefit of the 1 and reference with lower crossovers points.

I do not have a boomy sound from the corner Triton, maybe since it’s 3 ft from the side wall and 3 ft from the rear wall.

I have a few tracks I like to use, 1 of which is of acoustic guitar which goes wide right and wide left. If I go symmetrical, I haven’t been able to get it to sound right.

It’s interesting how the toe in of the corner Triton impacts the perceived width of the opposite side. If you try asymmetry, there is going to be a sweet spot with the angle. If the toe in is not enough, it won’t sound quite right till all of a sudden everything blends into a nice invisible stage.

I really think there is a null at my listening position for the left (corner speaker) specifically. It has always sounded thin from that side. The right speaker has clearly more bass and even my former polk towers were the same. I’ve changed positioning forward and back and width wise and it’s always there. The seating position simply cannot move anymore forward in my living room and going back hurts the overall stage performance and blending.

However I don’t think the null is too bad since setting the corner triton sub at 10 1/2 and the right one at 9.75 is very balanced. They start to sound really nice together. It’s ironic how many times people turn the corner sub down to stabilize the image, I am finding the opposite.