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rjohn79395
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8 years 2 months ago
Thanks, Moderator Dude
I do believe the raters for the publications are doing the best they can with reviewing a huge array of audio equipment, and that they do so with the best of intentions, and integrity.. they have a lot to lose otherwise.
BUT, rating the original T2's as Class C??? (I didn't see that review, so have to assume it's correct). I listened to lots of speakers before purchasing my original fronts, the T2's. If what I heard was "average (C), I'l eat my hat. I can try to envision what the reviewer was going through when doing a (hurried?) session with T2's, but all I know is that it took less than 5 minutes for me on my first audition of the T2's (also my first exposure to GEt speakers) to know I was hearing something special. After 5 minutes, I was hooked. Had to have them, and I'm not overly impulsive. I haven't looked back since, just kept adding new GEt's as they came out.
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I do believe the raters for the publications are doing the best they can with reviewing a huge array of audio equipment, and that they do so with the best of intentions, and integrity.. they have a lot to lose otherwise.
BUT, rating the original T2's as Class C??? (I didn't see that review, so have to assume it's correct). I listened to lots of speakers before purchasing my original fronts, the T2's. If what I heard was "average (C), I'l eat my hat. I can try to envision what the reviewer was going through when doing a (hurried?) session with T2's, but all I know is that it took less than 5 minutes for me on my first audition of the T2's (also my first exposure to GEt speakers) to know I was hearing something special. After 5 minutes, I was hooked. Had to have them, and I'm not overly impulsive. I haven't looked back since, just kept adding new GEt's as they came out.
Rick
5.4.4 HT speakers: T Ref fronts/LFE 1, SuperCenter Ref, T1 surrounds/LFE 2 + SuperSub XXL, HTR 7000 top fronts, HTR 8000 top rears
Zone 2 speakers; 2 Invisa 525's
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8 years 2 months ago
No argument on that from me.
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8 years 2 months ago
Hey guys, long time no post... you have to take these ratings with not a grain, but an entire salt lick worth of salt. Price absolutely factors in. A blind man can see that in the stratification of the classes by price. Second, there is gear that would best the class A stuff in every component class that Stereophile will never review. So, while I agree with Moderator that these reviewers are not on the take at all, the entire system is flawed. If they wanted to make that list meaningful, they would take the top components from their subjective listening sessions and then rate them all in a blind test.
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It is true that price seems to be a factor if one views statistically the Class A vs. the rest.
Not sure what products you feel they would never review - seems to me they have reviewed virtually every commercially available audio product on the planet at some point.
Back to the pricing, I feel the same way when I see sports car ratings in Road and Track or Top Gear ... c'mon, could a Pagani or Mclaren or Bugatti or Ferrari really be that much better than the 'vette? Uh ... yeah. Amazing what you can do when value is not a goal, seems to apply to all categories of goods from what i can tell...
Not sure what products you feel they would never review - seems to me they have reviewed virtually every commercially available audio product on the planet at some point.
Back to the pricing, I feel the same way when I see sports car ratings in Road and Track or Top Gear ... c'mon, could a Pagani or Mclaren or Bugatti or Ferrari really be that much better than the 'vette? Uh ... yeah. Amazing what you can do when value is not a goal, seems to apply to all categories of goods from what i can tell...
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8 years 2 months ago
I guess one speaker that gets so much attention and great reviews, that I have not heard, and that costs a lot more than the T1, is the Bower and Wilkins Diamond 800. To me, that seems closest to the T1 concept. I guess I'd like to hear it for myself one of these days. Wilson Alexandria's and other high end speakers, well way past my threshold of value/cost. I'd say the Diamonds also.
I read one review that said the Goldenear HVFR tweeter reminded him of his Diamond 800's tweeter... that seems like pretty good company.
I'm open to opinions about cost vs. value. But I am SO happy with the SQ my GEt's can deliver. Better than anything I hear at theaters, concerts, other folk's systems. At this point, I'm far more inclined to invest over time in upgrading what I feed the GEt's than even considering other speaker types.
Yes, I suppose I'd love a million dollar McLaren sports car, or a Wilson Alexandria speaker set. But in the real world I live in, I'm TOTALLY happy with my GEt's.
Rick
I read one review that said the Goldenear HVFR tweeter reminded him of his Diamond 800's tweeter... that seems like pretty good company.
I'm open to opinions about cost vs. value. But I am SO happy with the SQ my GEt's can deliver. Better than anything I hear at theaters, concerts, other folk's systems. At this point, I'm far more inclined to invest over time in upgrading what I feed the GEt's than even considering other speaker types.
Yes, I suppose I'd love a million dollar McLaren sports car, or a Wilson Alexandria speaker set. But in the real world I live in, I'm TOTALLY happy with my GEt's.
Rick
5.4.4 HT speakers: T Ref fronts/LFE 1, SuperCenter Ref, T1 surrounds/LFE 2 + SuperSub XXL, HTR 7000 top fronts, HTR 8000 top rears
Zone 2 speakers; 2 Invisa 525's
AVR: Marantz SR 8015
Amp: AT525NC 5 channel
Cable/TiVo, OPPO BDP 105D, Bluesound Node 2i, Apple tv 4K streamer
48" SONY 4K OLED TV
Zone 2 speakers; 2 Invisa 525's
AVR: Marantz SR 8015
Amp: AT525NC 5 channel
Cable/TiVo, OPPO BDP 105D, Bluesound Node 2i, Apple tv 4K streamer
48" SONY 4K OLED TV
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rjohn79395 wrote: I'm open to opinions about cost vs. value. But I am SO happy with the SQ my GEt's can deliver. Better than anything I hear at theaters, concerts, other folk's systems. At this point, I'm far more inclined to invest over time in upgrading what I feed the GEt's than even considering other speaker types.
No question the GoldenEar speakers hit that magic mark in the performance/value relationship. In some ways they do more than hit it, they simple obliterate competitors in that regard. From my own personal experience, the Triton Ones sound better overall than any speaker I have ever had in my listening room in the 40+ years I've been an enthusiast, and the list of what I've had is like a who's who of reference loudspeakers (because 35 of those years has been at the vendor level, when I didn't have to actually BUY them).
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