I just want thank you to all of you that replied. It is nice to be able to talk with people who have some of the same gear and the same passion. I will set them to small and play with the crossovers. I have a feeling I am going to Iike 60htz. I am also going to see if I can send a little more bass to the 5's in 2 channel by playing with the settings on my 4311Ci. I was expecting a little more bass from them but they are new and do need to warmup and break in some. I might post some pictures so you can see what I mean about my room acoustics. I loved how the sevens the super center XL sounded with movies and DVD BluRay concerts. I hope once I get this dialed in, and the speakers broken in, I will have the same feelings.

Thanks,
HIFI

rjohn79395 wrote:

HIFI wrote: I am new to this forum so if I have this in the wrong place please forgive me. I have just purchased the Triton 5s and the Super Center XXL to replace the XL and the Triton 7's, which I put with another system in a different room. My room is an open concept. I have 13 foot ceilings and hardwood floors. I know my room is very reflective. My speakers are on a wall that is angled somewhat. The TV and entertainment center are on the flat part of the wall. My speakers unfortunately are not. One has part of the wall behind it but that wall has about a 30 degree angle to it and just above the speaker is an opening to my kitchen with a granite countertop. The other speaker unfortunately does not have the wall behind it, it sits just outside the wall. The wall I am speaking of separates the kitchen from our listening room. I know not the ideal setup but that is what we have to work with it. I have a JBL Synthesis 5 channel power amp and a Denon 4311CI. I have a JL Audio E112 sub. When we ran odyssey it set them to large and full ban with no crossover. The center was set to small crossed last 60. When we had had the 7's set up we ran the cross at 60 and set them to small. With this setup we feel feel the punch of the sub in our back. With the new setup we can hear the sub and it is full but the punch in our back is not the same. Is this because the 5's and the center are making the bass more even through our room? We worked with the phase on the sub and a sound meter and in two main listening positions the level is the same (80db) and in the two positions to the left the sub rumble is a db higher. What is the recommendation from Sandy on the 5's when it comes to Large and small and what is the crossover recommendations? We love the sound of the 5's. We hear things that we never heard before but I think the bass needs to warm up and needs little break in time because it is a little weak but that could be my room as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi, HIFI

Welcome to the forum! As I understand your current set-up with the T5's set as large/full band, unless you have bass settings in the Denon on "enhanced bass/double bass" (not usually recommended), the only bass signal that would be going to your JBL sub would be the .1/LFE channel output. The crossover from the center set at 60HZ would be going to the T5's, set as large (and of course with the T5's as large, there would be no crossover from those channels to the sub either).

No doubt the T5's are generating more bass than the T7's did, and can be played as large speakers. Powered Tritons (1,2, and 3) are usually recommended to be set as large since they have their own built in sub. With the T5, they can be played as large, or, if an external sub is available (your JBL), an option to help out with the bass is to set the T5's as small and cross them to the sub (maybe in the 40-60 HZ range), and see how you like that. There is no right or wrong setting. It's more about what pleases your ears most. I would guess that lots of folks with T5's and external subs set the T5's as small and cross them to the subs.

Another question: how did the set-up sound with the T5's as large before you ran AUDYSSEY? Sometimes AUDYSSEY doesn't "make things better".

You ave great speakers! I'm sure you'll find some settings that work best for you.

Happy listening!

Rick

Hi Rick. I did not listen to it in 5.1 before I ran AUDYSSEY. I just listened in stero then I ran it. Thank you for your time and I will let everyone know what I did and how I think it sounds when I am done. Thanks again!
PS the rest of my speakers are all GE. Sub Sat 60 for surrounds and in the ceiling I have Invisa?

Hey, HIFI

You're building quite a multi-room set of systems! Lots of great GEt speakers at your disposal.

As T Cobe already said, when you're through fine tuning your new T5's and SCXXL into your main HT system, it will no doubt be a real pleasure to listen to. I'm sure that you'll find your way through finding the right crossover settings to blend your sub back into the mix.

Whatever works for you is what counts. I like my SCXXL at 60 HZ crossover, but room dynamics and listening preferences are the ultimate trump cards. Don't be afraid to try on your own. AUDYSSEY can't replace what your ears like best. Consider any AUDYSSEY settings as "recommended start points", and then play on your own if you want to. I am currently using my own settings and have AUDYSSEY turned off, even erased with a factory reset. The issue of what EQ systems work best with GEt speakers is a WHOLE other subject, but nothing beats your ears for choosing what you like.

Happy listening

Rick

Well after trying a bunch of combinations (6) I have come to a place where I love how it sounds! It took my wife and I a whille. Yes I said my wife. Fortunately for me I have a wife who loves this as much as I do and knows as much if not more than I do. So here is what I came to as my optimal setting for now (knowing the speakers have to break in). Fronts are croseed at 80, center is crossed at 80, surrounds at 100, surround backs at 120, subwooffer volume is at -4.5 and the phase on the sub (JL Audio E112) is set to 270.

I tried the fronts at 60 and on my concert BluRay of the Eagles I lost a little bit of the highs. I have such an amazing sub that I let it do the heavy lifting and the 5's and super centerXXL hit the mid bass, the mids, & highs. The phase of the sub, the volume of the sub, and the distance setting of the sub played a huge part in the sound in my room. I am sure we all struggle with getting the highs we want and not sacrificing the lows. So when I crossed it over at 80 and adjusted the sub it was like wow! that is what I want. Still got the punch and the highs. That center and the 6" drivers in the 5's really shine now! I might put some pictures up. Thanks to all who helped and I hope I might have helped others who have read this.

Thanks,
HIFI

HIFI wrote: Well after trying a bunch of combinations (6) I have come to a place where I love how it sounds! It took my wife and I a whille. Yes I said my wife. Fortunately for me I have a wife who loves this as much as I do and knows as much if not more than I do. So here is what I came to as my optimal setting for now (knowing the speakers have to break in). Fronts are croseed at 80, center is crossed at 80, surrounds at 100, surround backs at 120, subwooffer volume is at -4.5 and the phase on the sub (JL Audio E112) is set to 270.

I tried the fronts at 60 and on my concert BluRay of the Eagles I lost a little bit of the highs. I have such an amazing sub that I let it do the heavy lifting and the 5's and super centerXXL hit the mid bass, the mids, & highs. The phase of the sub, the volume of the sub, and the distance setting of the sub played a huge part in the sound in my room. I am sure we all struggle with getting the highs we want and not sacrificing the lows. So when I crossed it over at 80 and adjusted the sub it was like wow! that is what I want. Still got the punch and the highs. That center and the 6" drivers in the 5's really shine now! I might put some pictures up. Thanks to all who helped and I hope I might have helped others who have read this.


Thanks,HIFI

PS the center and the fronts are set to small.

Excellent, glad to hear that - enjoy!!