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rustypep
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6 years 9 months ago
New member here and recently moved into a new home. I am working on a 7.2.4 system. The room size is roughly 16’x20’. I will have two rows of seats with a bar behind the second row and a half wall. 20’ represents where the back of the bar stool sits with someone seated. The bar will look in from a seperate room via a half wall. From the heads of the second row to the actual back wall is 14’. So overall size is roughly 16’x32’. I will loose a little width when I built in for wall treatments, pillars, etc. Ceiling height is just 7’10”. Because of that I will not add a coffer ceiling or border to break the rooms apart or lower the ceiling as I need all I can get. Plus I I can mount ceiling rears and allow sound to pass. Most of the watching will happen from the first two rows. I may require more subs but my questions for now are as follows.
Which GE towers will work best as part of a baffle wall behind an AT screen? Passive or active? Or do I consider another GE product such as the new SPS? Although I do like towers I am open to other ideas. I have two young kids and 2 young dogs so don’t want the towers out in the open room. I am using Boston VR towers for fronts and rears and so far no one has knocked them over yet! Life long BA fan but they don’t have options these days and two GE demos have me sold.
Given my ceiling height, am I am better off with just one set of side surrounds? Just curious about imaging and panning and what might work best for my ceiling height. I considered a set for each row but wonder if I am better off with one set? I am not worried about it for the bar row. Want to focus on the experience in the first two rows.. I was originally thinking four SS3’s or would one set of MPX’s be better? I also considered the 650’s for side duty. Right now with all the room behind me I am thinking 7000’s for rear surrounds and either 7000’s or 650’s for the four atoms ceiling speakers.
I have done rough calculations for everything on paper and putting it in CAD now. The tower decision will come much later but right now I want to get the surrounds figured out and going so I can finalize the walls and ceiling plan. Thanks again for any advice.
Which GE towers will work best as part of a baffle wall behind an AT screen? Passive or active? Or do I consider another GE product such as the new SPS? Although I do like towers I am open to other ideas. I have two young kids and 2 young dogs so don’t want the towers out in the open room. I am using Boston VR towers for fronts and rears and so far no one has knocked them over yet! Life long BA fan but they don’t have options these days and two GE demos have me sold.
Given my ceiling height, am I am better off with just one set of side surrounds? Just curious about imaging and panning and what might work best for my ceiling height. I considered a set for each row but wonder if I am better off with one set? I am not worried about it for the bar row. Want to focus on the experience in the first two rows.. I was originally thinking four SS3’s or would one set of MPX’s be better? I also considered the 650’s for side duty. Right now with all the room behind me I am thinking 7000’s for rear surrounds and either 7000’s or 650’s for the four atoms ceiling speakers.
I have done rough calculations for everything on paper and putting it in CAD now. The tower decision will come much later but right now I want to get the surrounds figured out and going so I can finalize the walls and ceiling plan. Thanks again for any advice.
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CRRobert
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6 years 9 months ago
I don’t think any of the Triton Towers will work well in a baffle wall. I think the side passive radiators, sock/angled sides would provide problems sandwiched into a baffle wall. I have been considering my options behind an AT screen as well and the Invisa SPS seems to be the ticket if doing a true baffle wall. GeT also says you can do the Invisa MPX, but the Invisa SPS seems to be marketed as more of an Inwall Triton Tower.
The other option I have been thinking, is to treat the wall behind the screen, place 3 Triton Towers behind the screen in front of the treated wall, or 2 Tritons and supercenter. I have the option to put the L&R in front if I want, sounds like you don’t. This would also be easier to toe in the Tritons, or upgrade in the future, although I could toe in the baffle wall framing.
I am leaning toward the Tritons and Supercenter at the moment, though the SPS behind AT screen lit up with baffle wall treatments is very tempting.
I am currently in the process of putting drywall in my 12 1/2 by 20 dedicated 7.2.4 theater, so similar. I will have MPX for side surrounds, SS50/Invisa 650 Rear, and still trying to work out the Atmos channels and ceiling configuration. Somewhere between SS3, Invisa 650, or Invisa HTR 7000. I also prewired for front wides.
The other option I have been thinking, is to treat the wall behind the screen, place 3 Triton Towers behind the screen in front of the treated wall, or 2 Tritons and supercenter. I have the option to put the L&R in front if I want, sounds like you don’t. This would also be easier to toe in the Tritons, or upgrade in the future, although I could toe in the baffle wall framing.
I am leaning toward the Tritons and Supercenter at the moment, though the SPS behind AT screen lit up with baffle wall treatments is very tempting.
I am currently in the process of putting drywall in my 12 1/2 by 20 dedicated 7.2.4 theater, so similar. I will have MPX for side surrounds, SS50/Invisa 650 Rear, and still trying to work out the Atmos channels and ceiling configuration. Somewhere between SS3, Invisa 650, or Invisa HTR 7000. I also prewired for front wides.
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FF4
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WayneWilmeth
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6 years 9 months ago
Welcome Rustypep, glad you are here and I am sure a GEt system will sound great in your new home. Exciting.
Sounds like CRRobert has you covered, you guys are thinking about the same things and speaking the same language.
Enjoy, hope you find out what you need.
God Bless,
Wayne
Sounds like CRRobert has you covered, you guys are thinking about the same things and speaking the same language.
Enjoy, hope you find out what you need.
God Bless,
Wayne
God bless the child that's got his own.
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6 years 9 months ago
Welcome, glad your GoldenEar product demos sold you!
Without seeing the room, actually being in it, it is very hard to comment or answer your questions. Two things I can say:
1) The Triton Towers will work as well in a baffle wall as any other speaker. Pull them as far forward as possible and toe them in. No reason not to use powered unless you want outboard subs.
2) Ceiling height does not impact the number of surround speakers, if your actual listening space is indeed 32' deep, I would agree that adding the 7.1 rears is a good plan. HTR 7000 for rears required them to be at least 12' away from the center listening position, probably better off with MPX in-walls if that works.
Without seeing the room, actually being in it, it is very hard to comment or answer your questions. Two things I can say:
1) The Triton Towers will work as well in a baffle wall as any other speaker. Pull them as far forward as possible and toe them in. No reason not to use powered unless you want outboard subs.
2) Ceiling height does not impact the number of surround speakers, if your actual listening space is indeed 32' deep, I would agree that adding the 7.1 rears is a good plan. HTR 7000 for rears required them to be at least 12' away from the center listening position, probably better off with MPX in-walls if that works.
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CRRobert
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6 years 9 months ago
Moderator wrote:
1) The Triton Towers will work as well in a baffle wall as any other speaker. Pull them as far forward as possible and toe them in. .
Moderator, not sure if I am missing something, but from what I understand, in a baffle wall, usually you want the front face of the speaker to be lined up with the face of the baffle wall, so there are no sound waves propagating towards the back of the speaker. Usually they have stuff tight up to the edge of that speaker face, difficult to conform to the exterior shape of the Tritons, and that would put the passive radiators behind the baffle wall.
We might be taking similar but different terms. Baffle Wall Link
Triton 3+
Supercenter XXL
HTR7000(5)
FF4
SS50
Supercenter XXL
HTR7000(5)
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WayneWilmeth
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6 years 9 months ago
Well, I confess,
I am baffled!!!!
Have fun with it,
God Bless,
Wayne
I am baffled!!!!
Have fun with it,
God Bless,
Wayne
God bless the child that's got his own.
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