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ArthurDaniels Posted 9 years 6 months ago
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As has been discussed in other topics, there are a group of Active Triton users (including me) who are sending both Analog Bass signals and LFE bass signals into the LFE inputs on the Triton Ones, Twos, or Threes. For our group, it would be helpful to have a discussion about how to set up crossover options in our AV Receivers or audio sound processors to for best sound reproduction by our Active Tritons.

For purposes of this discussion, I am defining Analog Bass signals as being bass signals originating from two-channel stereo sources, such as CD players and being provided to the sub-out connectors on the AV Receivers or other audio processors. I am defining LFE signals as those bass signals being provided by AV Receivers or other processors and which result from processing multi-channel surround-sound type signals.

If an AV Receiver or other audio source is capable of sending Analog Bass signals into the Tritons LFE connectors, then there are likely to be multiple crossover settings options within the AV Receiver or other audio processor (for example, my Onkyo NR 3009 9.2 channel AV Receiver has multiple crossover frequency options for all speakers, including the 2 sub outputs). How best to set up these crossover options is the subject of this discussion.

I would especially like to see responses from other Active Triton owners who are sending Analog Bass signals into their Tritons LFE connectors.

Best to all,

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T Cobe Posted 9 years 6 months ago
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Art,

Good questions. I've been searching for these answers as well. I know they've been posted before but I'm having trouble finding them. I have a pair of T1s arriving within the next week and would like to have these settings to speed my set up and listening pleasure!

I believe I have seen the following settings for the T1s:

1. L/R speakers set to large/full frequency
2. Sub woofer set to yes
3. Sub crossover set to 100hz

Is this correct for use of LFE input? Any confirmation and first hand experience would be greatly appreciated. Since the T2 crossover is 160hz, the settings would be different.

Cheers,

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ArthurDaniels Posted 9 years 6 months ago
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T Cobe wrote: Art,

Good questions. I've been searching for these answers as well. I know they've been posted before but I'm having trouble finding them. I have a pair of T1s arriving within the next week and would like to have these settings to speed my set up and listening pleasure!

I believe I have seen the following settings for the T1s:

1. L/R speakers set to large/full frequency
2. Sub woofer set to yes
3. Sub crossover set to 100hz

Is this correct for use of LFE input? Any confirmation and first hand experience would be greatly appreciated. Since the T2 crossover is 160hz, the settings would be different.

Cheers,

T Cobe


According to Sandy and confirmed by an Administrator, the Triton Ones sub section crosses over at 100 Hz. Therefore, I have set my sub crossover in my Onkyo to 100 Hz. I have also set the Fronts in my Onkyo to crossover at 100 Hz. My Triton Ones speaker cables are connected to my Onkyo Fronts and my Triton One L/R LFE inputs are connected to my Onkyo Sub Outs 1 and 2. You might want to try these settings if your AV Receiver or Audio Processor permits these settings. Otherwise, set your Triton One Fronts to LARGE or FULL BAND.

If you have followed the discussions regarding the presence or absence of analog bass on the LFE cable, you might wonder what is correct. For virtually any AV Receiver, there are fundamentally two ways to connect DVD, CD, and other input devices. If your only connections are via HDMI and/or Digital or Optical cables, you may or may not have bass present on the LFE cables if the sound source is a CD or if you are using an "Analog Direct" or "Pure Direct" mode to listen to music. However, if you also have your analog-capable playback devices (DVD/CD players, turntables, etc.) connected to your AV Receiver via analog cables, then you can send analog bass signals down the LFE cables with proper AV Receiver setup.

Have fun with your new Triton Ones.

Best,

Art
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Yes, it is a mystery as to what exactly you get in this multiple overlapping crossovers scenario, which is why we do not suggest/recommend it. But all that matters in the end result is what you like, and there are usually multiple ways to get there.
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murphyslaw1978 Posted 9 years 6 months ago
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I only have main speaker wires connected today, and my LFE goes to my Velodyne subs. I do have 2.1 when playing 2-channel stereo, which is to say that I have the LFE signal outputting bass in that mode today. However, I would like to test the change to putting the LFEs to the Triton Twos that I have. My goal is to get rid of the Velodynes, but so far, I have not been able to do this, presumably due to my room configuration.
7.1 today, moving to 7.1.4 tomorrow
(2) Triton Two - front mains
(1) Sat 60C - center
(2) Sat 50s - sides
(2) Sat 50s - rear
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ArthurDaniels Posted 9 years 6 months ago
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murphyslaw1978 wrote: I only have main speaker wires connected today, and my LFE goes to my Velodyne subs. I do have 2.1 when playing 2-channel stereo, which is to say that I have the LFE signal outputting bass in that mode today. However, I would like to test the change to putting the LFEs to the Triton Twos that I have. My goal is to get rid of the Velodynes, but so far, I have not been able to do this, presumably due to my room configuration.


I recommend you move your LFE cable(s) to the Triton 2s. I believe you will find that the integrated bass presented by the Tritons will be superior to your present setup. You can keep your Velodynes either by splitting the LFE signals (I don't recommend this approach) or by cascading your AV signals to a second AV Receiver with a sub out to drive your Velodynes.
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