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murphyslaw1978 Posted 8 years 1 month ago
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Seegarsmkr wrote: Murph,
Thanx for illustrating my point. I was actually trying to devise an answer in reverse. I know that the size of the room and "stuff" in it can drastically affect bass, imaging, dynamic range, etc. What i was trying to ask was is there a recommended cubic room size difference between the Triton 1 and 2+? If the room "smallness" is sufficient to minimize the difference between the two speakers, then it may save some time and money to downsize speaker without downsizing sound quality. As T Cobe illustrated; I may just have to audition them once I have the planned room.

Don't have information on the room size at this point which is another reason for the question without more specific data.


I have a 3,000 cu ft room and still wanted more bass than the T1s could deliver, but I'm unique and was chasing 120+dB for bass, so I added dual 18" subs to the T1s.

That said, if you had a 1,000 cu ft room, I'd think the T2+ would be quite enough.

Putting T1s into a room that small (1,000 cu ft) won't necessarily be overkill or a problem, give that both the T1s and 2+s have the same tweeter height and you want that level with your ears at the main listening position, but you might end up with a speaker that is able to deliver far more bass than you ever need.

How loud do you want to listen? Dynamic range between the two is different, both because of the midrange driver sizes, and also because of the additional bass drivers in the T1s. So both speakers will sound similar in the 70-80dB range assuming you are leaving 15dB for peaks 95dB peaks). But above a certain loudness level, the T1s will sound better and louder and have more dynamic range because of it.

Again, the room size, along with seating position will determine this. So those smaller 1,000 cu ft rooms not only yield more bass, but they also mean that you are potentially sitting closer. Every doubling of distance away from the speakers you sit means that you have to play 6dB louder for it to sound like it's the same level as sitting closer. And 6dB more loudness requires 4X the amplifier power.

How many people do you want to be able to listen to music or watch a movie in your future new room? If you design a smaller room, say 3-4 people on a single couch, you will end up being more efficient with speakers and amplifier power. Heck, even the built-in power amp in a decent AVR could blow your ears off in that case.

It's the cases when you need 6-10 people in a theater, or you are sitting 15-20' away from the screen and speakers that require tremendous speakers and amplifiers, not to mention subs, to get a decently loud experience. For those larger theaters, for example, I know many folks that have 4-8 subwoofers and 1000w per channel RMS amplifiers driving PA speakers.
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T Cobe Posted 8 years 1 month ago
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Murphyslaw1978,

Looks like somebody still needs to update their signature block... ;) How are your T1s working out?

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Seegarsmkr Posted 8 years 1 month ago
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Murph,
Thanx for that answer it gives me a lot more to think about from a more objective perspective.

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Seegarsmkr Posted 8 years 1 month ago
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T Cobe,
Awesome info as always. I didn't get a chance to audition both but will DEFINITELY do so before the purchase/decision. I listened to the 1s and was very impressed with just about every aspect of the listening experience. I even listened to some stuff that I was not familiar with just to listen to the dynamic range and staging...they gave me chills with their balance and large sound stage. I will do the back-to-back audition as soon as I get some time to run over to the shop again.

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