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WayneWilmeth Posted 11 years 2 days ago
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Thanks Chad,
Thing is, I already have a decent center speaker, quite good, and on paper it plays lower than the SuperCenters because it has a little bigger drivers. I do understand that a full range, or nearly full range center channel speaker is really necessary to a great home theater sound. I already have that full, rich sound.
What I NEED to know is, how much can you discern that the HVFR tweeters play in concert, work together 1-2-3 playing across the front of the room with the T2s on the left and right and the SuperCenter in the center? Can you hear that they all have the same "voice" all across the front? Is the presentation more coherent because they all have the same awesome tweeter? Others suggest that they do, it is audible to you?
Thanks for any help,
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Moderator Posted 11 years 2 days ago
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Just to add to the discussion of full (or fuller)-range center channel speakers, the generally accepted feeling is that HOME theaters (as opposed to COMMERCIAL theaters) are better with limited extension center speakers. The generally accepted standard is flat to 80Hz, (which the SuperCenters are and then some), and since that is also the generally accepted best crossover point for a multi-channel home theater with subwoofer(s), a center that plays significantly lower than that will have no benefit. (Our SuperSats utilize the stereo subwoofers in the Tritons for reproducing center channel bass below its higher crossover frequency). And lastly, the generally accepted standard for the cinema recording industry is to NOT mix bass into the center channel (no bass in the channel means no reason for the speaker to play below speech frequencies).

Now, from my own personal experience in a medium size home theater (and listening to about a zillion in-stores theaters), full range centers interfere with dialog intelligibility. There are a variety of both engineering and acoustic reasons for this, and it is true that a good room correction system can help minimize some of these issues. My best sounding theater systems and installs have always had bass directed away from the center, typically from 80Hz (even the fuller-range ones I've used over the years - making me wonder why I paid for big, expensive center speakers when I didn't like the sound when taking advantage of the extended response).
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Chad2815 Posted 11 years 2 days ago
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Wayne it really sounds alot more fluid, I know exactly what your describing because I previously had a Bowers and Wilkins center and The Supersat reallyvresolved that issue. In regards to the previous post, I didnt think a crossover setting of 70hz was considered running bass through the center? I dont know all the specs but 80hz sounds good and 70hz sounds better. I have never ran full range only 70hz which is the Goldenear reccomendation. Does make you wonder why a speaker that with larger woofers can sound better than a smaller one even though you leave them at the same crossover setting.
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Moderator Posted 11 years 1 day ago
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I didn't think a crossover setting of 70hz was considered running bass through the center?


Its not. 70Hz, 80Hz, basically same thing... have to go down to 60 or lower, or 100 or higher, to really be different in a significant way. Simply a trade-off of dynamics and IM distortion for "main" speaker fidelity. Which is why in HT setups people usually prefer the higher crossover points and in stereo with sub (music) setups people prefer lower ones.

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WayneWilmeth Posted 11 years 1 day ago
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Thanks Chad and Moderator Dude for your good input.
I agree, I don't run any bass to my center channel, I do cross it over at 80 Hz.
It is just a good speaker that fits into a center channel situation, and I have been happy with it. But it never shared the sound stage with GoldenEar speakers before.
When I get my system setup and playing, soon I hope, I will have to try out a SuperCenter, somehow. My dealer does not have any right now, but by the time I am ready to listen, perhaps he will.
Thanks for the help,
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