file Currently playing

  • rjohn79395's Avatar Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • rjohn79395
    • Posts: 2410
    • Thank you received: 4322
    • Karma: 2
  • arrow_drop_downMore arrow_drop_upLess
rjohn79395 Posted 4 years 3 months ago
Last edit: 4 years 3 months ago by rjohn79395. info_outline
#28638

charliehatch wrote: Rick, I noticed that some of the Dragonflys are 96 kHz maximum. Is that true for the Cobalts? If so, you'll hit the wall on some of the Qobuz songs, which are at 192 kHz. When they say hi res, they ain't kidding. Most are below that, tho.

Charlie


Hi Charlie

All the Dragonfly DAC's play up to 96k. Apparently they play 192k at 96k also. So I don't know how much better or differently a 192k file would sound vs. a 96k. Of course there's always say a Chord Dave DAC for $12k or so for an uptick, but I'm not going there now :laugh: . Though I don't doubt moving up the DAC scale improves what a great headphone or speaker can deliver.

So far, listening to hi res via the Cobalt in Amazon Ultra FLAC format vs. Tidal's MQA, it's pretty close SQ wise, and definitely a tick up from 16 bit CD quality. Everything just seems cleaner, more detailed. I haven't listened to enough Qobuz to have a good comparison playing the same tracks yet.

But the Cobalt is a big step up from the Dragonfly Red I had prior to the Cobalt being introduced. I love the clarity, dynamics, refinement, heck even musicality. But the Ananda's brought out the magic. Listening on closed back Sony MDR-1AM2's wasn't in the same class for realism, transient response, size of sound stage, "being there".

Rick
5.4.4 HT speakers: T Ref fronts/LFE 1, SuperCenter Ref, T1 surrounds/LFE 2 + SuperSub XXL, HTR 7000 top fronts, HTR 8000 top rears
Zone 2 speakers; 2 Invisa 525's
AVR: Marantz SR 8015
Amp: AT525NC 5 channel
Cable/TiVo, OPPO BDP 105D, Bluesound Node 2i, Apple tv 4K streamer
48" SONY 4K OLED TV
The following user(s) said Thank You: charliehatch

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • charliehatch's Avatar Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
    • Posts: 599
    • Thank you received: 904
  • arrow_drop_downMore arrow_drop_upLess
charliehatch Posted 4 years 3 months ago
#28640

rjohn79395 wrote: I don't know how much better or differently a 192k file would sound vs. a 96k.
Rick


My hearing rolls off at 4 kHz (gasp!), and even though I've tried and tried, I cannot tell the difference between 44 kHz and higher sample rates. I can't hear the difference between reconstruction filters either (I've tried and tried there too); the effects there must be above 4 kHz.

I had a friend over and set up a blind listening test. He has way better hearing than mine. I played two tracks with identical content, one at 44 kHz, the other at 176 kHz. (These were Reference, so probably really recorded at those rates, or equivalent.) I swapped them at random and he couldn't tell which one I was playing. He ended up picking the 44 kHz track as sounding better! Go figure. (Maybe his hearing isn't as good as I thought...)

I firmly believe that some people can hear differences in sample rate (probably due to filter differences). I'm just not one of them.

Oh well. Funny thing is, I can still hear subtle differences in components. I think that's because most of the musical information is below 4 kHz.

Charlie
Digital source > multiple boxes and cables that are always changing > Triton Reference speakers
The following user(s) said Thank You: anthem, rjohn79395

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • anthem's Avatar Offline school
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
    • Posts: 4876
    • Thank you received: 9175
    • Karma: 7
  • arrow_drop_downMore arrow_drop_upLess
anthem Posted 4 years 3 months ago
#28641

Incendio/The Shape of Dreams (2013) - Azucar mocha

Beautiful piece!
The McIntosh is on amp duty today.
D-Sonic m3a-600m Mono > McIntosh MC152 > Primaluna ProLogue Premium Preamp > Oppo UDP205 > Decware ZLC > Triton Reference > Isoacoustics Gaia 2 > Canare 4S11 Speaker Cables > Audience Forte 3, Anticable L3 & Shunyata Venom PC's

Every great performance deserves an Audience!
The following user(s) said Thank You: Moderator, rjohn79395

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • rjohn79395's Avatar Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • rjohn79395
    • Posts: 2410
    • Thank you received: 4322
    • Karma: 2
  • arrow_drop_downMore arrow_drop_upLess
rjohn79395 Posted 4 years 3 months ago
#28642

anthem wrote:
The McIntosh is on amp duty today.


Hey, Anthem

You cycle amps some like I cycle music genres. :)

For me, switching between genres is a chance to shift focus, moods. You have the rare luxury of choosing lots of premium amps to use, and play mostly jazz.. When you have a minute or two to spare, kindly share what about each of your amps, from McIntosh to D-Sonic to Emotiva, to all the other amps you keep in the barn, do you like, to fill the listening need you feel at the moment? You switch amps kind of like I switch music genres! :laugh:

Happy listening!

Rick
5.4.4 HT speakers: T Ref fronts/LFE 1, SuperCenter Ref, T1 surrounds/LFE 2 + SuperSub XXL, HTR 7000 top fronts, HTR 8000 top rears
Zone 2 speakers; 2 Invisa 525's
AVR: Marantz SR 8015
Amp: AT525NC 5 channel
Cable/TiVo, OPPO BDP 105D, Bluesound Node 2i, Apple tv 4K streamer
48" SONY 4K OLED TV
The following user(s) said Thank You: anthem

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Roman Johnston's Avatar Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
    • Posts: 323
    • Thank you received: 802
    • Karma: 2
  • arrow_drop_downMore arrow_drop_upLess
Roman Johnston Posted 4 years 3 months ago
#28644
I haven't listened to their music in quite a while.



LR:
Onkyo TX-NR636
Surround System = SSat3 x5
Sub - FF4

Office:
NAD T748 V2
Nearfield System = Aon 2 Mains
SSat3 Surrounds
Sub - FF3
Attachments:
The following user(s) said Thank You: Moderator, rjohn79395

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • anthem's Avatar Offline school
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
    • Posts: 4876
    • Thank you received: 9175
    • Karma: 7
  • arrow_drop_downMore arrow_drop_upLess
anthem Posted 4 years 3 months ago
#28645

Cinque/Catch a Corner - Saturday Night, Sunday Morning

Phenomenal sonics!
Steve Gadd on drums, of course.
D-Sonic m3a-600m Mono > McIntosh MC152 > Primaluna ProLogue Premium Preamp > Oppo UDP205 > Decware ZLC > Triton Reference > Isoacoustics Gaia 2 > Canare 4S11 Speaker Cables > Audience Forte 3, Anticable L3 & Shunyata Venom PC's

Every great performance deserves an Audience!
The following user(s) said Thank You: Moderator

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Moderators: Moderator
menu
close
Menu
person_outline
arrow_back