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11 years 1 month ago
Hi djsallad,
Well, I would say the thing you need to do is find out what's wrong in your system. The Triton Threes absolutely rock, harder than anything else you could even begin to consider for the money, with less power than anything sonically comparable. There are many owners on this forum that can attest to that, not to mention all the reviews.
In this internet forum no one can hear the problem. Call your GoldenEar dealer and have him come out and sort out what the problem is (although you might just want to wait the recommended 50 hours of playing time before passing judgement, as they will change considerably during that time). If there's something wrong with the speakers they'll be able to resolve that, if there's something wrong with your setup they can help you with that, and if there's something wrong elsewhere in your system they can help identify it. The rest of us here, we can just tell you "not true, these things rock".
Well, I would say the thing you need to do is find out what's wrong in your system. The Triton Threes absolutely rock, harder than anything else you could even begin to consider for the money, with less power than anything sonically comparable. There are many owners on this forum that can attest to that, not to mention all the reviews.
In this internet forum no one can hear the problem. Call your GoldenEar dealer and have him come out and sort out what the problem is (although you might just want to wait the recommended 50 hours of playing time before passing judgement, as they will change considerably during that time). If there's something wrong with the speakers they'll be able to resolve that, if there's something wrong with your setup they can help you with that, and if there's something wrong elsewhere in your system they can help identify it. The rest of us here, we can just tell you "not true, these things rock".
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11 years 1 month ago
Well, I am getting closer. The system has sounded great for movies & TV since day one. Music has been the issue but it is getting better. This is probably from both changing the receiver settings and the speakers slowly breaking in. I am still expecting more. If any of you can give me some guidance on the direction I should be moving I would appreciate it. The following is information on where I am at.
My system consists of:
Denon X3000 receiver
GoldenEar Triton 3 Fronts
Supersat 50 Center
Cambridge Soundworks S300 Surrounds & Rears
Samsung BD-F6700 BluRay
Sharp TV LC-80LE857U
Dish Hopper
Apple TV
B&O Turntable
(all internet compatible components are hard wired)
I have a large collection of music that I ripped on a desktop computer using iTunes ALAC. Here is what I have determined so far for audio.
1) Receiver sounds best in the stereo mode with a modified Audyssey setting rather than off. (front speakers large, subwoofer off)
2) The pure or direct mode does not sound as good
3) A USB thumb drive plugged into the receiver sounds better than both the Apple TV and Denon Airplay (it seems more crisp)
4) Playing a CD on the Blu-Ray is not an improvement over the above.
This is the information the receiver gives me on the files when I played the same music different ways:
USB Thumb Drive ALAC 44.1 kHz. 2/0/.0 (Files copied from computer)
Apple TV. PCM 48 kHz. 2/0/.0 (iTunes)
Denon Airplay. PCM. 2/0/.0 (no kHz shown) (iTunes)
Samsung PCM 44.1 kHz 2/0/.0 (CD)
These are the receiver settings that seem to sound the best.
Audyssey
MultEQ XT. Audyssey
Dynamic EQ. On
Reference Level Offset. 5 dB
Dynamic Volume. Light
Audio / Restorer. Mode. low
Speakers / Speaker Configuration
Front Large
Center Small
Sub-woofer. No
Surround. Small
Surr. Back. Small 2 speakers
Speakers / Crossovers
Front Full Band
Center. 100 Hz
Surround 100 Hz
Surround Back. 100 Hz
(Audyssey set surrounds at 110 Hz and 120 Hz. Speaker manuals said 100 Hz. so I changed it)
Speaker/Bass. LPF for LFE. 80 Hz (Audyssey set at 250 Hz and I couldn't tell any difference)
I am open to any suggestions on my settings and to suggestions on getting the music to the receiver. (do I want to connect a dedicated PC to the system with HDMI to the receiver bypassing the Apple TV and Denon Airplay or some other ideas you may have)
Thank you in advance for your help
My system consists of:
Denon X3000 receiver
GoldenEar Triton 3 Fronts
Supersat 50 Center
Cambridge Soundworks S300 Surrounds & Rears
Samsung BD-F6700 BluRay
Sharp TV LC-80LE857U
Dish Hopper
Apple TV
B&O Turntable
(all internet compatible components are hard wired)
I have a large collection of music that I ripped on a desktop computer using iTunes ALAC. Here is what I have determined so far for audio.
1) Receiver sounds best in the stereo mode with a modified Audyssey setting rather than off. (front speakers large, subwoofer off)
2) The pure or direct mode does not sound as good
3) A USB thumb drive plugged into the receiver sounds better than both the Apple TV and Denon Airplay (it seems more crisp)
4) Playing a CD on the Blu-Ray is not an improvement over the above.
This is the information the receiver gives me on the files when I played the same music different ways:
USB Thumb Drive ALAC 44.1 kHz. 2/0/.0 (Files copied from computer)
Apple TV. PCM 48 kHz. 2/0/.0 (iTunes)
Denon Airplay. PCM. 2/0/.0 (no kHz shown) (iTunes)
Samsung PCM 44.1 kHz 2/0/.0 (CD)
These are the receiver settings that seem to sound the best.
Audyssey
MultEQ XT. Audyssey
Dynamic EQ. On
Reference Level Offset. 5 dB
Dynamic Volume. Light
Audio / Restorer. Mode. low
Speakers / Speaker Configuration
Front Large
Center Small
Sub-woofer. No
Surround. Small
Surr. Back. Small 2 speakers
Speakers / Crossovers
Front Full Band
Center. 100 Hz
Surround 100 Hz
Surround Back. 100 Hz
(Audyssey set surrounds at 110 Hz and 120 Hz. Speaker manuals said 100 Hz. so I changed it)
Speaker/Bass. LPF for LFE. 80 Hz (Audyssey set at 250 Hz and I couldn't tell any difference)
I am open to any suggestions on my settings and to suggestions on getting the music to the receiver. (do I want to connect a dedicated PC to the system with HDMI to the receiver bypassing the Apple TV and Denon Airplay or some other ideas you may have)
Thank you in advance for your help
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djsallad
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11 years 1 month ago
I will wait it out. I just want to point out that I've powered them with an Anthem AV receiver, Marantz integrated,both used as a stand alone and as pre amp for some Nad power amps. i tried Anthem Arc and it totally sucked the life out of the Triton Three's. I am not sure what happened there.So i just turned it off for now I will say they sound good on movies and cable TV. I really want them to work out for me so we will see. I will post my thought in a couple of weeks.Thanx for the support. OH...and they look SWEET !!
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11 years 1 month ago
Man, Djsallad and DisplacedHusker,
Really wish we could help you guys more. I doubt that our reassurances that the T3s should rock will help you much. You will need to get to where you are HAPPY yourselves.
Breakin may help, settings may help. You should not need much power from your amps to make them sing. Though power will help I am sure. Especially to CONTROL the bass. But I have heard the T3s rock being played with just a 12 watt integrated tube amp, Simply Italy from Unison.
BUT, I had an odd experience once with the T2s, and will just mention it. Several of us were listening together and we thought we had things dialed in pretty well. We were comparing amps with the Tritons. And all the amps were coming up short on warmth, fullness and well rounded, satisfying sound. We went behind the speakers and dialed up the built in subs a bit, and listened again, and WOW. We had to start our whole listening sessions over because all the amps sounded MUCH improved.
Just Sayin', sometimes it just takes a little bit of tweaking, a small adjustment, move the speakers a bit, toe in more or less, and all of a sudden you are cookin. I HOPE.
Please let us know. Hope this helps,
God Bless, Wayne
Really wish we could help you guys more. I doubt that our reassurances that the T3s should rock will help you much. You will need to get to where you are HAPPY yourselves.
Breakin may help, settings may help. You should not need much power from your amps to make them sing. Though power will help I am sure. Especially to CONTROL the bass. But I have heard the T3s rock being played with just a 12 watt integrated tube amp, Simply Italy from Unison.
BUT, I had an odd experience once with the T2s, and will just mention it. Several of us were listening together and we thought we had things dialed in pretty well. We were comparing amps with the Tritons. And all the amps were coming up short on warmth, fullness and well rounded, satisfying sound. We went behind the speakers and dialed up the built in subs a bit, and listened again, and WOW. We had to start our whole listening sessions over because all the amps sounded MUCH improved.
Just Sayin', sometimes it just takes a little bit of tweaking, a small adjustment, move the speakers a bit, toe in more or less, and all of a sudden you are cookin. I HOPE.
Please let us know. Hope this helps,
God Bless, Wayne
God bless the child that's got his own.
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i tried Anthem Arc and it totally sucked the life out of the Triton Three's.
The default HF limit for ARC is 5000Hz. If you don't change that (to something like 500Hz, maybe 1000Hz max or 250Hz min) it WILL suck the life out of our ribbon tweeter speakers, and any thin film type speaker. Rerun ARC in manual mode and reset the HF limit default to a number that is more appropriate for room acoustics corrections. Also, make sure the bass level is set to "flat" (approx 10 o'clock on the control) when running ARC. You can dial up the bass to taste when done.
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Dynamic EQ. On
Reference Level Offset. 5 dB
Dynamic Volume. Light
Turn off Dynamic EQ, turn off Dynamic Volume. I don't know what Reference Level Offset is, if there's an off mode, choose that.
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